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Air France vs KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, Amsterdam (AMS) to New York (JFK): every cabin compared seat by seat, with scores, legroom, layouts and the seats to avoid.
Long-haul · 5,848 km
Boeing 777-200ER
AMS → JFK ·
Boeing 777-200ER
Boeing 787-10
Wide-body · One deck · 43 rows
Seats on board
In 3 cabins: Business, Premium Economy and Economy
Seats on board
In 3 cabins: Business, Premium Economy and Economy
5.6/10
Average seat score
Every seat rated out of 10, across 286 seats
5.7/10
Average seat score+0.1
Every seat rated out of 10, across 318 seats
AMS → JFK · 5,848 km
5m quicker
AMS → JFK · 5,848 km
Free Wi-Fi
In every cabin
Free Wi-Fi
In every cabin
Seat-back screens
AC/USB power in every cabin
Seat-back screens
Power: Business: AC/USB · Premium Economy: AC/USB · Economy: USB
286 seats from nose to tail
318 seats from nose to tail
Business35
World Business · Rows 1–9
Business38
Rows 1–10
Premium Economy32
Premium Comfort · Rows 11–15
Premium Economy28
Premium Comfort · Rows 11–15
Economy219
Economy Comfort · Rows 17–43
Economy252
Economy Comfort · Rows 17–47
World BusinessFull flat
35 seats in rows 1–9
BusinessFull flat
38 seats in rows 1–10
Economy ComfortStandard
219 seats in rows 17–43
Economy ComfortStandard
252 seats in rows 17–47
4 seats rated good or better
28 seatsMore
Extra legroom · 10% of seats
22 seats
Extra legroom · 7% of seats
Amsterdam (AMS), local time
Amsterdam (AMS), local time
New York (JFK), local time
New York (JFK), local time
Not available
Layout not published
1-2-1
4 seats across, two aisles, every seat on an aisle
Legroom
78"
Width
20"
Recline
180°
Legroom
78-81"
+1.5″Width
20.5"
+0.5″Recline
180°
5.9/10
Average seat score+0.1
Best seat 6.0
5.8/10
Average seat score
Best seat 6.0
Not available
No exit-row or extra-legroom seats
Not available
No exit-row or extra-legroom seats
2-4-2
8 seats across, two aisles
2-3-2
7 seats across, two aisles
Legroom
38"
Width
18.5"
Recline
8"
Legroom
38"
Width
18.5"
Recline
8"
5.9/10
Average seat score
Best seat 6.5
6.0/10
Average seat score+0.1
Best seat 6.5
Seats with more room or a bassinet
Seats with more room or a bassinet
3-4-3
10 seats across, two aisles
3-3-3
9 seats across, two aisles
Legroom
31"
Width
17"
Recline
5"
Legroom
31"
Width
17"
Recline
5"
5.5/10
Average seat score
Best seat 8.8 · 4 seats rated good or better
5.7/10
Average seat score+0.2
Best seat 8.8 · 4 seats rated good or better
Seats with more room or a bassinet
Seats with more room or a bassinet
4 seats rated good or better
Best stretch: rows 1–5, averaging 6.0
6 seats
Exit row · 2% of seats
6 seats
Exit row · 2% of seats
39 seats
Close to a lavatory · 14% of seats
35 seatsFewer
Close to a lavatory · 11% of seats
28 seats
Close to a galley · 10% of seats
23 seatsFewer
Close to a galley · 7% of seats
17 seatsFewer
Limited recline · 6% of seats
18 seats
Limited recline · 6% of seats
27 seatsFewer
Wing in the window view · 9% of seats
28 seats
Wing in the window view · 9% of seats
6 seats
Misaligned window · 2% of seats
2 seatsFewer
Misaligned window · 1% of seats
NoneFewer
No window
2 seats
No window · 1% of seats
20 seatsFewer
Tray table in the armrest · 7% of seats
25 seats
Tray table in the armrest · 8% of seats
28 seats
No floor storage for take-off · 10% of seats
25 seatsFewer
No floor storage for take-off · 8% of seats
2 seats
Can get cold by the exit · 1% of seats
2 seats
Can get cold by the exit · 1% of seats
5,848 km
Great-circle distance
5,848 km
Great-circle distance
Best stretch: rows 19–24, averaging 6.1
